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we'll break down what this means for asylum seekers and why the biden administration is now shifting towards tougher measures along the border. plus, the jury is set in hunter biden's federal gun charges trial. we'll go over what to expect as opening statements are slated to begin later this morning. and also ahead, house republicans grilled dr. anthony fauci on capitol hill yesterday as they continue to investigate his response to the covid pandemic. we'll play those intense exchanges and show you how fauci pushed back. good morning and welcome to "way too early" on this tuesday, june 4th. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for starting your day with us. and we'll begin this morning at the white house where president
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biden is expected to sign an executive order later today that would shutdown the southern border where daily migrant crossings between legal points of entry exceed 2,500 people. according to three sources familiar with discussions under the order the border would not reopen until that number falls below 1,500 migrants a day. any shutdown would not stop trade, travel, or entry by immigrants lawfully presenting themselves at points of entry. however, it would prevent migrants from applying for asylum if they cross the border during the shutdown. now, two of the sources stress the details are still being finalized, but the white house has begun discussing the order with lawmakers. one source tells nbc news the white house is acting now because it believes numbers which had remained relatively low will rise throughout the summer. department of homeland security
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officials say the southern border is currently seeing about 4,000 border encounters daily. joining us now national political correspondent for axios, alex thompson. alex, good morning. thanks for starting with us. let's talk a little bit about this order and why now. certainly for quite some time republicans have really hammered the biden administration on the border. white house officials had privately acknowledged earlier in the term this was a vulnerability, that they had missed just how serious this was. now we're seeing the president be proactive in doing so about five months before the election. talk to us about the political stakes. >> yeah, i mean you said the key phrase there, which is five months before the election. they understand usually border numbers do go up in the summer. the biden administration really could not move on this until mexico had its presidential election and needed buy in from mexico in order to make this
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happen because if you deny asylum, then those people need somewhere to go. that's also the timing because there were definitely democrats agitating to have this happen much earlier, around the "state of the union." but basically now the mexican presidential election is over, you're seeing the biden administration move very quickly. notably, two of my colleagues noted yesterday the biden administration invited most senators over for this action, but some of those vulnerable senate seat democrats still are a little bit weary even though they are probably glad the biden administration is taking action, they don't want to be in any way associated with the biden administration's policies on the border in a political way because they do also see it as a vulnerability. >> some progressive push back towards what the president is doing and a hot button issue as we head towards november. in just a few hours from now opening statements are set to begin in hunter biden's felony gun trial in delaware after a
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jury was selected yesterday, the first day of proceedings. the 12 jurors include six men and six women, and there are four alternates who are women. hunter biden tied to three counts of possession of a gun while using narcoticess. he has pleaded not guilty. the trial expected to last about two weeks. the president's son was joined in the courtroom yesterday by family including his wife and sister. first lady jill biden was also ipattendance spending the beginning of her birthday in court to support her son. president biden was not in court but issued this statement. quote, as the president i don't and won't comment on pending federal cases, but as a dad i have boundless love for my son, confidence in him, and respect for his strengthch our family has been through a lot together and jill and i are going to continue to be there for hunter
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and our family with our love and support. president biden has made clear he'll not pardon his son or hunter to be convicted. while some congressional republicans have long been trying to nail hunter biden for some sort of crime trying to enrich himself or his family through his father's name, perhaps even implicating his father in that, he presented no evidence. republican senator lindsey graham of south carolina said this to huff post senior politics reporter yesterday. "i think any average american who's done their taxes like hunter biden would probably face prosecution. however i don't think the average american would have been charge would the gun thing. i don't see any good coming from that." a note of humanity from senator brown. alex, you are in delaware for the trial. let's get your quick take on what we saw yesterday and what you anticipate coming in the days ahead. >> two things that really struck out from being in the courtroom
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yesterday. one really was the contrast with last year. in the same courtroom last year you'll remember a potential plea deal completely unraveled in front of our eyes with the lawyers arguing with each other and going back and forth and the other thing is hunter biden was alone last year in terms of family. this time you saw a really rallying around -- the circling the biden wagons around hunter wagon. he had a crew there and see next to her that's peter neil, hunter biden's son-in-law, ashley biden there, you saw hunter's wife there. he was very much surrounded by friends and family including even a documentary crew that's been following them around the last two years. one of the directors and cameramen was there, too. the other thing that stood out as we were going through the potential jurors they asked had anyone in the family suffered to
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addiction to alcohol or drugs, and i've got to tell you i don't know if there was more than a handful that didn't say yes. i think almost every single member of the jury all have members of their family or friends that had either od'd, suffered from alcoholism, died from drugs or alcohol, and that's a lot of what this case is about. >> yeah, and that's something that has been part of the hunter biden story line is that people close to the president say, actually, you know, this is not a gotcha. a lot of americans feel real sympathy for the bidens because they have addiction issues in their own family. alex, we do have the talk about the politics of this. as noted republicans have for years now tried to drown biden with accusations against hunter. this no success. most polls show americans simply don't care. and hunter biden is not running for office and we have the split screen with what happened with trump last week. there's more concern just about
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the personal toll on joe biden the father. talk to us more about the impact both politically and personally. >> yeah, completely agree with that read. the politics of attacking hunter biden are really unclear it's been successful. you have to remember the impeachment inquiry house republicans opened basically fizzled and does not exist anymore. in terms of the personal toll part of this is because joe biden feels guilty. because i think joe biden -- i've been told feels if he had not run for president, this would not have happened to hunter. and you have to look at the time line here of these alleged events with this gun felony, when hunter biden purchased a gun while he was addicted to crack cocaine and, you know, stored in a trash can, a lot of messy details here with the family. the time line here that's october 2018. six months later joe biden got into the race. basically we're going to see this very messy family soap
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opera that was still going on when joe biden entered the race. that's why i think in terms of the personal toll it comes from feelings of guilt. >> yeah, i think that's exactly right. and the president leaves for france tonight for commemoration of the d-day anniversary and some state events in paris. certainly he'll be continuing to follow the trial and contact his son as he does each and every day. terrific reporting to start us off this morning live from wilmington, delaware. national political correspondent for axios, alex thompson. thank you. still ahead on "way too early," dr. anthony fauci returns to capitol hill and gets grilled by republicans about the origins of covid-19. we'll take a look at some of the big moments from that hearing and later in the show talk about where we stand battling this pandemic plus the latest from israel as prime minister benjamin netanyahu denies claims he's accepted a cease-fire deal. those stories and a check on
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welcome back. the country's former top infectious disease doctor, dr. anthony fauci, faced a barrage of attacks from republican lawmakers yesterday during a hearing on capitol hill. for the first time since retiring last year, dr. fauci testified publicly before the house select committee on the coronavirus pandemic, and he spent most of the hearing fending off conspiracy theories. >> do you agree there was a push to down-play the lab leak theory? >> not on part my part. >> really. >> really. >> i think most of the country would find that amazing. >> look at the facts. i've kept an open mind throughout the entire process.
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i don't think the concept of there being a lab leak is inherently a conspiracy theory. what is conspiracy the distortions of that particular subject, like it was a lab leak and i was parachuted into the cia like jason borne and told the cia they should really not be talking about a lab leak. >> mr. fauci, you also represent the type of science where you confess that you made up the covid rules including -- >> i didn't hear -- >> including the social distancing and masking of children. >> i didn't say i made anything up. >> are you saying this is fake news, mr. fauci? >> i didn't say i made anything up. >> what did you say? >> i said that it is not based in science, and it just appeared. >> but this is science. >> what does dogs have to do with anything we're talking about today? >> these are children -- children in school were put in
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plastic bubbles because of your science, your repulsive, evil science. do the american people deserve to be abused like that, mr. fauci? because you're not doctor. you're mr. fauci. we should be writing a criminal referral because you should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity. you belong in prison, dr. fauci. >> after the hearing nbc's ali vitali caught up with the congresswoman who was still fuming at the way one democratic member of the subcommittee defended dr. fauci. >> dr. fauci, i want to join my colleague from florida in apologizing to you that some of our colleagues in the united states house of representatives seem to want to drag your name through the mud. they're treating you, dr. fauci, like a convicted felon. actually, you probably wish they were treating you like a convicted felon. they treat convicted felons with love and admiration. some of them blindly worship
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convicted felons. >> we have jamie raskin in there accusing us of worshipping trump, worshipping a convicted felon. >> he is a convicted felon. >> yes, so was george floyd. there were riots burning [ bleep ] over the country over george floyd and raskin saying we're worshipping him. i don't worship. i worship god. >> doctors and scientists adapted as quickly as they can. they try things. not everything worked. the vaccine came in record time. they did the best they could. to other headlines now. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is denying any claims he's agreed to the latest cease-fire proposal. netanyahu made the comment yesterday while speaking to a parliamentary committee. he says no agreement will be made until israel's conditions are met. in a separate closed door meeting the prime minister told lawmakers israel will not end the war without ending hamas'
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rule in gaza first. this conflicts with the white house's statements where president biden publicly outlined the framework deal on friday, he called it an israeli proposal. biden also told qatari officials israel is prepared to move forward and he urged doha to pressure hamas to accept the offer. the latest proposal includes three phases in which hostages would be released in exchange for palestinian prisoners. the second phase, however, calls for a permanent end to the war, which is the sticking point for israel. because of that clause two key right-wing ministers are threatening to level netanyahu's coalition. they say they'll leave and will take down the government if israel signs off on the cease-fire deal. we, of course, will stay on top of this story. still ahead we'll turn to sports and bring you some highlights from the french open as top ranked novack djokovic rallies for a win but now questions linger whether or not
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caitlin clark. carter shoulder checked clark from behind and knocked her down before the ball was rebounded. the ball was ruled a common foul by league officials but the nba upgraded it after a league review. reese who was seen cheering on the hard foul from the side line was fined for skipping out on media interviews. this is not the last we've heard on this story i'm sure. we turn now to the latest tennis open tournament in paris. earning a spot in the quarterfinals with his record 370th win grand slam match. but djokovic said he could not be certain whether he'll be healthy enough to play in tomorrow's contest as the 37-year-old continues to deal with an ailing right knee. my bet says he plays. on the women's side a straight
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set victory who's secured her spot in her first major quart final. now just the third woman in nearly two decades to reach the quarters. to baseball now the former interpreter for superstar shohei ohtani is expected to plead guilty today to bank and tax fraud. today's hearing from mizuhara stems from a stunning sports betting case where he'll admit to stealing $17 million from the los angeles dodgers star to pay off gambling debts. authorities say there is no evidence that ohtani was involved or aware of his interpreter's gambling. mizuhara, officials say, did not wager on baseball. however, san diego padres's infielder is facing the possibility of a lifetime ban
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because he is accused of betting on the sport of baseball. this comes after "the wall street journal" yesterday reported the player is under mlb investigation for wagering on games involving the pirates when he was with that team last season. the league's gambling policy states that a player who bets on games involving his own team is subject to a lifetime ban. nbc news has not independently confirmed the probe is related to alleged bets last season. the agency that represents markona did not respond to an e-mail yesterday. now let's turn to arizona. the diamondbacks tied in the bottom of the ninth. >> live in the air, deep center field, pavin smith, good-bye. >> pavin smith connecting on a two run pinch run.
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and to the college softball diamond, one half of the women's college series finals now set. >> laid down by maloney. kennedy to the plate. washington is hung up now. washington charging. and she's safe. texas takes the lead! >> that wild run-down in the seventh inning ends in a longhorns run that sends top seeded texas to the finals with a 1-0 win over stanford. texas waits for either florida or oklahoma after they snap. you never see those run-down plays work. time now for the weather and let's bring in meteorologist angie lassman with the forecast. it's going to be hot. >> it's going to hot. that sums it up. we've got a heat warning extending from the southwest and
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texas, las vegas, tucson included in those heat alerts and a lot of those are going to extend through the week into friday. above norm recall temperatures across the great lake and interior north east, but the west specifically. here's the record tomorrow 108 in las vegas, 12 degrees above normal this time of year. fresno into the triple digits and tucson hit 105 and albuquerque well into the mid-90s, running well above normal this time of year. specifically as we get into thursday and friday that's where we turn up the heat across this region. las vegas expected to hit 112 degrees on thursday. 108 on saturday. we keep the heat in place as well for phoenix with 113 for the highest temperature we'll see over thursday, friday, and saturday. but doesn't get much better as we head into the weekend, so heads up for that. meanwhile, today we've got
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another run at strong storms, 19 million people included in this. minneapolis out to dallas and jackson is where we'll see potential for strong storms. the good news, jonathan, the tornado risk is low today. >> we'll keep an eye on that. angie lassman, thank you as always. next up here on "way too early," india is counting votes in what is the world's largest democratic election. we'll take a look at where things stand and how the outcome could impact the united states. we'll be right back with that. ds we'll be right back with that.
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welcome back to "way too early." it's a little after 5:30 a.m. here on the east coast, 2:30 out west on this tuesday morning. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being with us. republican congressman vince fong of california was sworn in yesterday filling the seat once held by former house speaker kevin mccarthy. and with the new republican lawmaker the house now has 218 republicans and 213 democrats. the majority required to pass legislation is 216. republicans have a little more breathing room but still can only afford to lose two votes from their own party. mccarthy came to watch the swearing in ceremony, and he congratulated his successor. to overseas now. india has begun to count the votes in its general election, which is widely expected to result in a rare third term for its current prime minister narendra modi. the process has taken six weeks as votes were gathered throughout the world's most populous country. the associated press reports
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roughly 642 million people voted in the general election equating to an avren turnout percentage to about 66%. if modi wins he will become the second prime minister in india's history to serve three terms and the first in 60 years. joining us now international correspondent for the economist. thank you so much for joining us this morning. i know you've been following prime minister modi's career for years now. you have a podcast dedicated to it. tell us what we know about the results so far. it appears modi's party is doing well but not quite securing the landslide that was expected. >> yeah, it's really, really interesting today because going through this campaign the bjp has been talking -- this is a party that expected to have an absolute majority in parliament
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and throughout the campaign there have been some questions about that. at some point there were questions around voter turnout. as it's hot in the u.s. right now, it's really hot in india. and at that time modi was really amping up this islamaphobic rhetoric. he was trying to turn out the hindu nationalist base. exit polls came out on saturday, it seemed like it had worked. it seemed the modi government was in for a massive victory, and actually this morning as the results come in it's not looking good. it's far, far tighter than most people expected. the opposition alliance is doing well, and it's not just the number of seats. it has to do with the geographic spread. we have one big state in undia meant to be modi's heartland and it's actually running very tight. it's 10,000 votes between some of these seats. it's going to be a narrow victory for modi for a mon who
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the entire government has been centralized around him. there's a personality cult around him. it's going to be a very big thing. >> you're right. a personality cult around modi. he is in the state in many ways. assuming this holds and he does win perhaps more narrowly than expected what can we expect in the years ahead in the push to nationalallism at home but also on the world stage? >> two parts for modi's vision he's been offering. he says he's a probusiness leader. he's promising growth and develop india, and on the other hand there's this hindu nationalism, this dangerous, strident, divisive politics. and you see him as a leader play these two things up and down. what his voters said actually people aren't happy in particular with the economics. you've seen some estimates as much as 45% youth unemployment. you've got inflation really complaining about this election period. you'll see in his economic
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agenda is slightly unraveling. and as he tries to navigate the coalitions, this is not something he's used to as a politician. how much can he continue his economic reform agenda? and will he choose to amp up and play up that dangerous hindu nationalism? this country is in a geopolitical sweet spot for the u.s., for much of the west it's a completely invaluable counterweight to china. and no matter what happens in the government i think that will remain. >> providing us expert analysis this morning live from london. she is international correspondent for the economist. thank you again. and we'll be looking out for your upcoming podcast series "exploring the rise of modi." still ahead we'll go live to cnbc for an early look what's driving the day on wall street. plus two media companies are in talks to merge. what we're learning about the deal and the impact it could have on the entertainment
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or college, since you like to get schooled. that's a pretty good burn, right? time now for pz, and for that let's bring in cnbc's charlotte reed who joins us live from london. charlotte, good morning. stock futures appear down after a sluggish start to the month. what should we expect today? >> good morning, john. yes, futures flat this morning after they ended mostly higher after mostly -- now today investors will get a hint on the health of the u.s. labor market with job openings and labor turnover survey released today ahead of fawn farm payroll data expected on friday. meanwhile in europe all eyes are on the european central bank holding meeting on thursday and
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expected to make the first interest rate cut since 2019. >> we'll be watching that to be certain. let's hit a couple more headlines here. a hollywood mega-merger for an entertainment giant could be announced in the coming days. charlotte, tell us all about it. >> disruption in the entertainment industry could mean consolidation and paramount shares trading higher yesterday after cnbc reporting there could be a deal and a merger with skydance. and a sweetened offer from skydance after recent competing offers. and the deal is said to be awaiting a final sign off from the controlling shareholder who is expected to speak today at the company's annual meeting. so the merger between paramount, which of course owns cbs and nickelodeon, and chi skydance
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which produced "top gun: maverick" recently is valued about $8 billion. >> and one more for you. spotify is raising the prices of its premium subscription plans for the second time in about a year. so what prompted this latest price hike? >> tv and movies to music with spotify increasing the price in the u.s. again just a year after the latest increase. spotify said it is raising prices so the company can continue, quote, to invest and innovate in product features. so from july the premium subscription will go up $1 to $11.99 per month. and family will increase from $16.99 to $19.99. only the student plan will stick to the same price at $5.99 per month. and spotify had actually already announced price increases for the international customers just last month. >> all right, cbs's charlotte
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reed live from london, thank you as always. still ahead here as we mentioned earlier the west coast is set to see triple digit temperatures this week. we'll speak to a leading medical exert about how you can stay safe as we approach the first real heat wave of the season. "way too early" will be right back with that. e season "way too early" will be right back with that with powerful, easy-to-use tools, power e*trade makes complex trading easier. react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting and a futures ladder that lets you place, flatten, or reverse orders so you won't miss an opportunity. e*trade from morgan stanley sup? -who are you? so you won't miss an opportunity. i'm your inner child. get in. ♪ ♪ [ engine revving ] listen. horsepower keeps you going, but torque gets you going. ♪ ♪ [ engine revving ] oh now we're torquin'! the dodge hornet r/t. the totally torqued-out crossover.
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welcome back. residents out west are bracing for the first real heat wave of the season set to scorch the region with triple digit temperatures. beginning tomorrow excessive heat warnings will be in effect until friday evening for parts of california, nevada, and arizona due to dangerously hot conditions. some areas already reached triple digit temperatures yesterday with both las vegas and phoenix hitting 103 degrees. fire crews will also be on high alert. joining us now nbc news medical contributor dr. vin gupta. dr. gupta, good to see you again. these are scary numbers and just
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the beginning, though, of a potentially sweltering summer. what do we know how bad this particular summer could be? and what's your advice how to prepare for a heat wave this dangerous? >> jonathan, good morning. thank you for highlighting this. this is the issue of our time. what we're seeing is these heat domes sitting around seattle, they had a terrible one, jonathan, you might remember in the beginning of the summer of 2021. something similar here inland california all the way up through oregon, san joaquin valley up north. if you're watching this potentially across the country you have to be prepared sitting in new york city or central california for what's to come. this is expected today be one of the worst summers when it comes to heat we've seen on record. how do you prepare to answer your question? make sure you're ready for sun exposure, heat and air pollution. you have to have sp 15 or higher
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sunscreen. jonathan, you want to make sure we're hydrating especially when it's humid outside but 4 liters up from what we would expect a liter to 2 liters a day. double that with 4 liters. clean out your ac filters every few years. if you haven't done it in a few years if you have ac, make sure your ducts are cleaned out. and lastly when it comes to air pollution around us whether on the west coast look for healthy levels, invest inane air pursuer in your bedroom. if you're someone with lung disease keep air filters on hand. >> an important story and something we'll be watching all summer long. dr. gupta, let's turn now to the covid pandemic. we know people across the nation and around the world still
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battling long covid. what new variants and infection levels are we seeing? where do we stand right now in this battle? >> much better place than where we were, jonathan, when we used to have this conversation much more frequently. testing rights aren't very high anymore. people have largely put this as something they don't worry about as much. we do know new variants exist. much more contagious. luckily the vaccines continue to work, therapeutics continue to work. cases are high -- of the tests done case rates are quite high, actually remaining at the levels we saw up to a few years ago. there's still a lot of covid-19 out there especially if you're medically my riesk, something to take seriously because this continues to get more contagious. >> certainly vaccines so important. last we played earlier in the show dr. fauci being flat out assaulted by some republicans in
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congress during hearings there. i wanted to give you the floor for a moment to defend dr. fauci if you like but also remind viewers about the early months of the pandemic how fluid the situation was and how doctors and scientists tried their best and frankly saved millions of lives. >> what i'll leave you with is that the vaccines have been estimated to save up to 1.2 million lives. jonathan, dr. fauci oversaw operation warp speed. all the good work that went into saving all those seven figure lives was based on him and the work actually done here. it's easy to forget it, oeasy to politicize it now. but because of his work and his leadership, we're seeing a lot of averted deaths, and i think we missed that point as this wo the months ahead. we'll certainly be checking back in with you on the pandemic and also this summer heat and what to do to stay safe. dr. gupta, thank you, as always.
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honor 150,000 troops that stormed the beaches of normandy june 6th, 1944. biden is expected to recognize the american alliances that have defeated the dictatorships of the past. on friday, biden will make another speech in normandy where he is expected to really frame the stakes of the battle for democracy across the globe today, and then he'll travel to paris for a state visit with french president emmanuel macron. joining us now, white house correspondent for reuters, jeff mason, who will be traveling with the president. couple nights in paris, not bad, jeff. >> can't complain, john. >> can't complain. let's start with the d-day agenda. i was lucky enough. i covered, five years ago, the 75th anniversary when then president trump went. but we're going to hear a slightly different message this time around for president biden. this is one of the more moving locations, frankly, on the globe, where the tide turned in world war ii. give us some of the themes, if you will, we're expecting to
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hear from the president. >> sure. i think the theme of democracy is certainly one that you'll hear, especially in the friday speech. i think the backdrop is really important to underscore here. it's the 80th anniversary, of course, of d-day, but it comes at a time when far-right parties are on the rise in europe. there's european elections this week, i believe, or coming up in any case for the european parliament. president macron is likely to see some losses from his party. marine le pen in france, her party is likely to gain. that will be the domestic backdrop. also, the broader backdrop of the rise of populism and anti-democratic movements, not only in europe but all around the world, and including some threats in the united states. president biden made that a pretty big theme of his campaign, as you know, for the presidency in 2024, and i think that will all be underscored against this really, really
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important and poignant anniversary of what was a fight of a democracy against autocracy in the throes of world war ii. >> yeah. i think it is such a good point. we don't know if president biden will use donald trump's name while in france, but, like, there is an obvious attempt to draw a contrast here. the first in terms of the politics of the moment, president biden on the world stage, a statesman, touting alliances, while former president and now presidential rival donald trump was just convicted of a crime back at home. also, in terms of what it means for europe and the world, where if president biden, to be re-elected, the u.s. would stand with its allies, with ukraine against russia. that's a lot less certain if trump were to take office again. talk to us about how they try to create this split screen. >> it is absolutely less certain. i think the split screen is important to biden, not just because he wants to win the election in november, but because that's something that's just critical to the values that he believes are critical, both
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to his party and to the values of the united states of america. so it is about alliances. it comes ahead of a nato summit in washington in just a few weeks, and it comes as ukraine is suffering on the battlefield against russia. the parallels of going and talking about all of these issues on the 80th anniversary of d-day, after, you know, the war that started in ukraine because of an invasion by another country is -- are, no doubt, themes we'll hear from biden. it's those broader themes and broader risks that are important to him, not only for the political message but for the global alliance message that underscores his presidency and has underscored peace in the world for the last 80 years. >> jeff, tell us a little more about the agenda for his state visit with emmanuel macron over the weekend. and is macron, in some ways, perhaps a helpful example for this president in terms of another leader of a western
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democracy who has had pretty middling to poor poll numbers but, yet, was re-elected. >> was re-elected, indeed. i think what we'll hear in the state visit, in the bilateral meeting they're having, will be a lot of talk about ukraine. i imagine there will be some talk about israel and gaza, as well. the two men have a good relation relationship. it's had some ups and downs during biden's presidency, but this state visit will underscore the strength of that alliance. i think they will focus a lot on ukraine and france and u.s. cooperation to cut down on the threats to democracy we were talking about. >> lastly, briefly on the domestic front, give us a sense as to why the white house felt it had to act now on the executive orders coming on the border in a few hours. >> you know, the issue of immigration is going to be a hot one in the campaign. it already is. i think the president is trying to show he's on it. he's trying to undercut the
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republican argument that he has allowed unchecked immigration across the border during his presidency, and he is throwing it out there now, early in the campaign, now early in the summer, to try and get the high road on it before it becomes an issue at the debates. >> all right. we really appreciate it. white house correspondent for reuters, jeff mason. same travels to france. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, sir. >> i'll certainly note for those who have the ability to see normandy and the d-day cemeteries and sights, please do so. it is something you will always remember. thank you for getting up "way too early" with us on this tuesday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. trump was found guilty. they were going to put him in an orange jump suit, but it felt redundant. trump will be sentenced july 11th, and his lawyers said to get his affairs in order. trump said, that's what got
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